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Meta Links (11/07/13 - 17/07/13)
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General Fandom
How feminist are the female characters we love?: jae (DW) - "What I've been wondering, though, is how feminism looks from the perspective of the characters we write about. In other words: which of the female characters you've written about do you think are feminists, and which ones aren't? And what makes you think that?"
I made a thing!: holli (DW) - "Well, four things. Well, four things and a lizard minizine."
Genderswap: chordatesrock (DW) - A collection of links and some meta about the genderswap trope
i'm making a list: pitseleh (DW) - "...of popular alien tropes in scifi. specifically scifi that focuses on aliens as multiple races, so more in the vein of star trek / babylon 5 / mass effect than star wars. while star wars still counts and i'm not saying it doesn't, it doesn't have the same focus of LOOK AT THESE DIVERSE ALIEN CULTURESSSSS that trek5effectetc does."
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!: aethel (DW) - "So for the past two weeks (!!) wank has been happening at fail_fandomanon regarding podfic and asking permission and what to do when the fan writer has gafiated (and how can you tell for sure?) [...] I had some vague notion of relating the current discussion to the topic of Orphan Works, which is a major issue in the real world, not just something entitled podficcers whine about. (That was sarcasm.) And then an ffa anon beat me to it, but that's okay. Their comment articulates fans' varying relationships to copyright law very clearly. "
Focussing on internalised misogyny is counterproductive: sqbr (DW) - "So: Internalised misogyny exists, and does harm to the woman herself and the women around her. All women have it to some extent and it's something we should be aware of and try to work against. However. Pretty much every time I've seen fans in female dominated fannish spaces talk about other women's internalised misogyny the argument would have been much better without it. "
From ‘Parks and Recreation’ To ‘The Good Wife,’ Sex, Money, Power, And What Women On TV Want: Alyssa Rosenberg (blog) - "thinking about sex and money for women on television is exciting less because it gives us a clear breakdown of characters’ motivations, than because it illustrates the diversity of women’s motivations in both comedies and drama."
NEW STUDY SAYS TEENAGE GIRLS ARE SEXUALIZED ON NETWORK TELEVISION
: Jill Pantozzi (blog) - "“Our study exposes a very real problem of teen girls being shown in sexually exploitative situations on TV, and that these situations are being presented as humorous. Sexually exploiting minors on TV – especially for laughs – is grotesquely irresponsible and must end,”"
Why We’ll Never Have a Female Tony Soprano: Alyssa Rosenberg (blog) - "I wonder if we might be better off accepting that antiheroism is a specific way of exploring hypermasculinity and masculinity gone toxic. "
Vividcon 2002:arduinna (DW) - "I was home sick Thursday - not sick enough to want to stay in bed, just kinda draggy and bleah, and taking advantage of a lull at work. So I decided to watch some old vids, and popped in my home-burned DVD of the VVC 2002 tape. I haven't watched most of these in ages, and I'm having a lot of fun."
Pondering: princessofgeeks (DW) - "I was idly looking at my SG-1 fic hit counts on AO3, as one does (boy am I behind in my archiving. I really need to get to that one of these days), and it is so clear to me once again that people read by searching for tags, even more than they read by FANDOM and by AUTHOR, which is how I read."
Questions for AO3 users: likeadeuce (DW) - "1. How often/ what percentage of the time do you search for fic by tags (ie, descriptive tags that are not specific to character/pairing/or fandom)?"
Demographics represented in my works: chordatesrock (DW) - "I was looking at the works I've posted so far, looking at the main and major characters' positions on a few axes of marginalization. This is not a scoresheet: you don't win anything for ticking off boxes and you shouldn't think "number of minority identities represented" is a good proxy for skill as a writer."
Genderswap: chordatesrock (DW) - "This probably isn't the last post I'll ever make on this topic."
Competency as a Kink Samantha_kathy: (blog) - "Competency is doing something well, but simply doing something well doesn’t trigger my competency kink. That’s because there are different kinds of competency, and not all of them do it for me. What kind of competency you like is very much a “your mileage might vary” thing."
Specific Fandoms
Dirty Dancing
"DIRTY DANCING" IS A SUBVERSIVE MASTERPIECE AND HERE ARE FOUR REASONS WHY: Lesley (blog) - "Reason #1: It is a movie whose plot hinges on the very real dangers of illegal abortion."
Doctor Who
“Are you my mommy?” Steven Moffat’s Obsession with Mum: Laura (blog) - "For all the progressive themes Moffat throws at UK and US audiences alike, he still finds a way to emphasize, and indeed define women in the role of mother, or psuedo-mother, or caretaker of children."
Game of Thrones
Meta Monday: Growing Up Noble(man): justadram (tumblr) - "The sons of medieval nobles received an education not so different from the education noble sons of Westeros might expect with one exception: proper deed and action ranked a great deal higher than learning to read or write or memorizing histories."
The Lone Ranger
Yeah, We’re Doing This: The Lone Ranger and the Updated American Outlaw: Kendra James (blog) - "Everyone involved manages to hit on a unique combination of blatant racism, missed opportunities, and straight-up bad filmmaking that makes The Lone Ranger the worst movie I’ve seen so far this year""
Man of Steel
Man Of Steel: simultaneously hitting and missing the point: ladyw1nter (tumblr) - "Below are critical thoughts about the movie from a production/narrative/editing standpoint plus things that I liked and (later) brainstorming ways that the movie could have been fixed."
Man Of Steel: troubleshooting:ladyw1inter (tumblr) - "So in talking about the flaws of the movie, I inevitably ran out of room to talk about what was wrong with the pace/narrative. This is sort of because of how it’s intrinsically tied to knowledge of who your audience is, so I had to discuss that first."
Marvel Comics Universe
Why Marvel Needs to Make a Captain Marvel Movie Like, Yesterday: Rob Bricken (blog) - "she’s an equal with all four of the main movie Avengers in a way no other superheroine can be. And that would go a long way into bringing gender equality into superhero movies."
Interpretations of MCU Howard Stark: tsaritsa elena (LJ) - "I have to admit to not having read the comics, so whatever I know of 616 Howard Stark came from the internet. And by all accounts, he seems to be an asshole: alcoholic, threatens Tony with violence, is unpredictable: nice to Tony one minute and belittling him the next, etc."
Stargate Atlantis
Jennifer Keller: An Apologia: lunabee34 (DW) - "I don’t think it’s a secret that Jennifer Keller and her canonical romantic relationship with Rodney McKay are roundly disliked by a significant portion of SGA fandom. I like her character very much, and I’ve always been puzzled by many of the reasons I’ve seen given for that dislike. Since the Keller antipathy is pretty inextricably tied up with antipathy for the McKeller ship, I want to address a couple of the most commonly given reasons I’ve seen given that Keller is bad for McKay and by extension just bad news in general. I’ll close out with a brief discussion of one aspect of the accusation that Keller is a Mary Sue."
Supernatural
Supernatural University: Demonstration Angel:bardic voice (LJ) - "Even in the Supernatural universe, Castiel is absolutely unique. Oh, every angel is unique, like every person – each one is an individual with its own identity and personality – but from everything we've seen, Castiel stands alone as the only angel ever to die and be restored … not to mention experiencing that more than once. "
Teen Wolf
a word about representation: queenitsy (tumblr) - "[Danny] is also a big fucking deal and his existence is genuinely important, when it comes to representation. Yes, even though he is a minor character. Here’s the thing: Danny is a gay man of color on TV aimed at teenagers."
Magic!Stiles could be real… no, really: reeby10 (tumblr) - "Piggybacking off of the theories that Lydia is a banshee, I thought I’d discuss some of my theories on the supernatural possibilities of some of the other characters. "
Alpha Twins Theory: Ethan’s Hallucination in “Motel California": josholm (tumblr) - "We know that the werewolves were hallucinating about memories from their past or their fears. Scott’s fear was losing his mother to Deucalion. Isaac’s fear was more so a memory of his father locking him in the freezer. Boyd’s memory was losing his sister in the ice skating accident. But Ethan’s fear was somewhat the strangest, if not the most central to his characterization this season."
IN WHICH I REMAIN UNIMPRESSED BY PRE-DESTINED LEADERSHIP AND RAMBLE ABOUT TEENAGE WEREWOLVES: hungrylikethewolfie(tumblr) - "One of the problems with being a bone-deep Hufflepuff is that the idea of a character succeeding purely through natural, inherent talent and the universe “wanting" them to succeed is one that I find both uninteresting and slightly insulting. "
Teen Wolf Shipping: Stiles, Jennifer and Sterek:cupidsbow (DW) - "Here's a vid by sinycatarina, comparing Derek's scenes with Jennifer to those with Stiles. I'd picked up on some of these, but not all of them. "
Welcome to Nightvale
Thoughts on Cecil's Appearance: alias_sqbr(DW) - "Pondering what Cecil from Welcome to Night Vale looks like. Kevin too."
If you have meta to sumbit or rec, please comment to this post or to the screened Submissions Post. If you'd like to give us blanket permission to link your meta please comment to the Blanket Permissions Post. If you have feedback or questions, check out our FAQ, Contact the Mods, or PM/email. If you'd like to volunteer to link-find or mod, please comment to the Volunteers Post.
General Fandom
How feminist are the female characters we love?: jae (DW) - "What I've been wondering, though, is how feminism looks from the perspective of the characters we write about. In other words: which of the female characters you've written about do you think are feminists, and which ones aren't? And what makes you think that?"
character: female, topic: feminism
I made a thing!: holli (DW) - "Well, four things. Well, four things and a lizard minizine."
topic: fandom, topic: zines
Genderswap: chordatesrock (DW) - A collection of links and some meta about the genderswap trope
topic: genderswap
i'm making a list: pitseleh (DW) - "...of popular alien tropes in scifi. specifically scifi that focuses on aliens as multiple races, so more in the vein of star trek / babylon 5 / mass effect than star wars. while star wars still counts and i'm not saying it doesn't, it doesn't have the same focus of LOOK AT THESE DIVERSE ALIEN CULTURESSSSS that trek5effectetc does."
itopic: race, genre: scif
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!: aethel (DW) - "So for the past two weeks (!!) wank has been happening at fail_fandomanon regarding podfic and asking permission and what to do when the fan writer has gafiated (and how can you tell for sure?) [...] I had some vague notion of relating the current discussion to the topic of Orphan Works, which is a major issue in the real world, not just something entitled podficcers whine about. (That was sarcasm.) And then an ffa anon beat me to it, but that's okay. Their comment articulates fans' varying relationships to copyright law very clearly. "
topic: podfic, topic: fanfic, topic: copyright
Focussing on internalised misogyny is counterproductive: sqbr (DW) - "So: Internalised misogyny exists, and does harm to the woman herself and the women around her. All women have it to some extent and it's something we should be aware of and try to work against. However. Pretty much every time I've seen fans in female dominated fannish spaces talk about other women's internalised misogyny the argument would have been much better without it. "
topic: misogyny, topic: fandom
From ‘Parks and Recreation’ To ‘The Good Wife,’ Sex, Money, Power, And What Women On TV Want: Alyssa Rosenberg (blog) - "thinking about sex and money for women on television is exciting less because it gives us a clear breakdown of characters’ motivations, than because it illustrates the diversity of women’s motivations in both comedies and drama."
character: female,
NEW STUDY SAYS TEENAGE GIRLS ARE SEXUALIZED ON NETWORK TELEVISION
: Jill Pantozzi (blog) - "“Our study exposes a very real problem of teen girls being shown in sexually exploitative situations on TV, and that these situations are being presented as humorous. Sexually exploiting minors on TV – especially for laughs – is grotesquely irresponsible and must end,”"
character: female, topic: sex
Why We’ll Never Have a Female Tony Soprano: Alyssa Rosenberg (blog) - "I wonder if we might be better off accepting that antiheroism is a specific way of exploring hypermasculinity and masculinity gone toxic. "
character: male, character: female, character: antihero
Vividcon 2002:arduinna (DW) - "I was home sick Thursday - not sick enough to want to stay in bed, just kinda draggy and bleah, and taking advantage of a lull at work. So I decided to watch some old vids, and popped in my home-burned DVD of the VVC 2002 tape. I haven't watched most of these in ages, and I'm having a lot of fun."
topic: fanvids, fandom: starsky & Hutch, fandom: Xena, fandom: vidding
Pondering: princessofgeeks (DW) - "I was idly looking at my SG-1 fic hit counts on AO3, as one does (boy am I behind in my archiving. I really need to get to that one of these days), and it is so clear to me once again that people read by searching for tags, even more than they read by FANDOM and by AUTHOR, which is how I read."
topic: tagging, topic: tropes, topic: kinks, topic: reading, fandom: Stargate
Questions for AO3 users: likeadeuce (DW) - "1. How often/ what percentage of the time do you search for fic by tags (ie, descriptive tags that are not specific to character/pairing/or fandom)?"
topic: tagging, topic: fandom, topic: tropes, topic: kinks
Demographics represented in my works: chordatesrock (DW) - "I was looking at the works I've posted so far, looking at the main and major characters' positions on a few axes of marginalization. This is not a scoresheet: you don't win anything for ticking off boxes and you shouldn't think "number of minority identities represented" is a good proxy for skill as a writer."
topic: representation
Genderswap: chordatesrock (DW) - "This probably isn't the last post I'll ever make on this topic."
trope: genderswap, topic: writing, topic: fandom
Competency as a Kink Samantha_kathy: (blog) - "Competency is doing something well, but simply doing something well doesn’t trigger my competency kink. That’s because there are different kinds of competency, and not all of them do it for me. What kind of competency you like is very much a “your mileage might vary” thing."
topic: kinks
Specific Fandoms
Dirty Dancing
"DIRTY DANCING" IS A SUBVERSIVE MASTERPIECE AND HERE ARE FOUR REASONS WHY: Lesley (blog) - "Reason #1: It is a movie whose plot hinges on the very real dangers of illegal abortion."
fandom: dirty dancing, topic: abortion, topic: class, topic: sex
Doctor Who
“Are you my mommy?” Steven Moffat’s Obsession with Mum: Laura (blog) - "For all the progressive themes Moffat throws at UK and US audiences alike, he still finds a way to emphasize, and indeed define women in the role of mother, or psuedo-mother, or caretaker of children."
fandom: doctor who, topic: motherhood
Game of Thrones
Meta Monday: Growing Up Noble(man): justadram (tumblr) - "The sons of medieval nobles received an education not so different from the education noble sons of Westeros might expect with one exception: proper deed and action ranked a great deal higher than learning to read or write or memorizing histories."
fandom: game of thrones
The Lone Ranger
Yeah, We’re Doing This: The Lone Ranger and the Updated American Outlaw: Kendra James (blog) - "Everyone involved manages to hit on a unique combination of blatant racism, missed opportunities, and straight-up bad filmmaking that makes The Lone Ranger the worst movie I’ve seen so far this year""
fandom: the lone ranger
Man of Steel
Man Of Steel: simultaneously hitting and missing the point: ladyw1nter (tumblr) - "Below are critical thoughts about the movie from a production/narrative/editing standpoint plus things that I liked and (later) brainstorming ways that the movie could have been fixed."
fandom: man of steel
Man Of Steel: troubleshooting:ladyw1inter (tumblr) - "So in talking about the flaws of the movie, I inevitably ran out of room to talk about what was wrong with the pace/narrative. This is sort of because of how it’s intrinsically tied to knowledge of who your audience is, so I had to discuss that first."
fandom: man of steel
Marvel Comics Universe
Why Marvel Needs to Make a Captain Marvel Movie Like, Yesterday: Rob Bricken (blog) - "she’s an equal with all four of the main movie Avengers in a way no other superheroine can be. And that would go a long way into bringing gender equality into superhero movies."
fandom: MCU
Interpretations of MCU Howard Stark: tsaritsa elena (LJ) - "I have to admit to not having read the comics, so whatever I know of 616 Howard Stark came from the internet. And by all accounts, he seems to be an asshole: alcoholic, threatens Tony with violence, is unpredictable: nice to Tony one minute and belittling him the next, etc."
fandom: mcu
Stargate Atlantis
Jennifer Keller: An Apologia: lunabee34 (DW) - "I don’t think it’s a secret that Jennifer Keller and her canonical romantic relationship with Rodney McKay are roundly disliked by a significant portion of SGA fandom. I like her character very much, and I’ve always been puzzled by many of the reasons I’ve seen given for that dislike. Since the Keller antipathy is pretty inextricably tied up with antipathy for the McKeller ship, I want to address a couple of the most commonly given reasons I’ve seen given that Keller is bad for McKay and by extension just bad news in general. I’ll close out with a brief discussion of one aspect of the accusation that Keller is a Mary Sue."
fandom: sga
Supernatural
Supernatural University: Demonstration Angel:bardic voice (LJ) - "Even in the Supernatural universe, Castiel is absolutely unique. Oh, every angel is unique, like every person – each one is an individual with its own identity and personality – but from everything we've seen, Castiel stands alone as the only angel ever to die and be restored … not to mention experiencing that more than once. "
fandom: supernatural
Teen Wolf
a word about representation: queenitsy (tumblr) - "[Danny] is also a big fucking deal and his existence is genuinely important, when it comes to representation. Yes, even though he is a minor character. Here’s the thing: Danny is a gay man of color on TV aimed at teenagers."
fandom: teen wolf
Magic!Stiles could be real… no, really: reeby10 (tumblr) - "Piggybacking off of the theories that Lydia is a banshee, I thought I’d discuss some of my theories on the supernatural possibilities of some of the other characters. "
fandom: teen wolf
Alpha Twins Theory: Ethan’s Hallucination in “Motel California": josholm (tumblr) - "We know that the werewolves were hallucinating about memories from their past or their fears. Scott’s fear was losing his mother to Deucalion. Isaac’s fear was more so a memory of his father locking him in the freezer. Boyd’s memory was losing his sister in the ice skating accident. But Ethan’s fear was somewhat the strangest, if not the most central to his characterization this season."
fandom: teen wolf
IN WHICH I REMAIN UNIMPRESSED BY PRE-DESTINED LEADERSHIP AND RAMBLE ABOUT TEENAGE WEREWOLVES: hungrylikethewolfie(tumblr) - "One of the problems with being a bone-deep Hufflepuff is that the idea of a character succeeding purely through natural, inherent talent and the universe “wanting" them to succeed is one that I find both uninteresting and slightly insulting. "
fandom: teen wolf
Teen Wolf Shipping: Stiles, Jennifer and Sterek:cupidsbow (DW) - "Here's a vid by sinycatarina, comparing Derek's scenes with Jennifer to those with Stiles. I'd picked up on some of these, but not all of them. "
fandom: teen wolf, fandom: vidding, topic: fanvids, topic: shipping
Welcome to Nightvale
Thoughts on Cecil's Appearance: alias_sqbr(DW) - "Pondering what Cecil from Welcome to Night Vale looks like. Kevin too."
fandom: welcome to nightvale